The Third Jihad

Fra The Third JihadDagbladet er litt over seg i dag, og er i sjokk over at amerikansk politifolk har sett på en film som heter «The Third Jihad». Filmen tar utgangspunkt i radikal islam, og de målene radikale muslimer har, altså at hele verden innlemmes i ummah’en, og blir Dar al Islam, altså fredens hus.

Dagbladet fremstiller dette nesten som at politiledelsen tror på «konspirasjonsteorien» om at muslimer vil ta over verden. Tror Dagbladets journalister at radikal islam forsvinner hvis de later som at det ikke finnes?

At en rekke fremtredende og radikale muslimer har et mål om å overta verden er ingen konspirasjon. Det dokumenteres jo til gangs i filmen, som jeg rett og slett mistenker at journalist Torgeir P. Krokfjord ikke en gang har sett.

Krokfjord skriver:

«Tidligere New York-ordfører og presidentkandidat Rudy Giuliani omtaler – ifølge organisasjonen selv – filmen «The Third Jihad» som et vekkesignal for USA. Giuilianis angivelige støtte veier tungt, da New York-politiet i hans regjeringstid gjorde suksess med å bekjempe kriminaliteten i byen.»

Hadde Krogfjord sett filmen, ville han sett at Giuliani er med i den. Han kan se den i si helhet her.

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  • Anonym

    Dagbladet; – dassbladet, – dustebladet, – dullebladet, – damebladet, – dårebladet, – dummebladet, , – bøllebladet, – bablebladet, - bla,, – bla, – blabladet, – dhimmibladet.

    Om Siste Skanse tillater et øyeblikks umiddelbare assosiasjoner
    eller fri diktning.

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    • http://document.no Marit

      Det er samme venstrevridde svada i alle aviser. Dhimmijournalister over en lav sko. Takk og pris for Bjørn Bråthen og Siste skanse !

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      • Anonym

        Skål for Bjørn!

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  • Anonym

    -»This is not about Islam. It is about the threat of radical Islam. Only a small percentage of the worlds  one point three billion Muslims are radical»…

    Well, excuse me for not buying into this bullshit. A devout Muslim who speak out against «radical» Islam? Who does he think he’s kidding anyway? There’s no such thing as «radical Islam», it’s just an empty phrase, invented for the sole purpose to conceal their true intentions. You’re lead to believe that those who kill in the name of Allah, abuse the true Islam. It’s called Taqyya.

    We were also lead to believe that if they only killed or captured Bin Laden, that would be the end of terrorism as we know it. Yeah, right, and if Bill Gates died, that would be the end of Microsoft. In fact, Bin Laden is practically forgotten, and there’s business as usual in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as in Europa and the USA, for that matter.

    So why would any sane person call himself a Muslim in the first place, when it’ s obvious that the problem is Islam? It took one man less than two hours and 77 dead civilians to convince practically every bleeding heart liberal as well as every left wing radical, that the only threat we’re up agaist in Norway, is the Christian right wing fundamentalists. That’s preposterous, to say the least.

    So, how come those liberal leftists bend over backwards in order to make up excuses for Islamic terrorists, when practically every terrorists appears to be a Muslim? A simple explanation is that an enemy of my enemy is my friend. Communists hate America, and they hate Israel even more. What better ally could they hope for in order to justify terrorism, than the poor, «oppressed people of the Middle East»?  
     

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    • http://document.no Marit

      You are completely right, bjorn_g !

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    • Anonym

      You’re right about how Islam is Islam, but on the other hand liberal muslims who doesn’t live by Islam, but the golden rule, are in a predicament, too. Since the penalty for apostasy is what it is it’s a little hard to shout from the rooftops that one renounces Islam. But one thing’s for sure: That guy is NOT a devout Muslim. But he’s a good and brave human being.

      If we absoultely have to lie, for the sake of «closet kuffars», I prefer «radical» over «militant» or «political». «Radical» says something about going to the root of things. The most correct description of violent Islam, if we’re gonna show liberal muslims some goodwill, is of course «Medina-Islam», or «Medina-mode-Islam», but that requires some knowledge about Muhammad and Islam from the target audience, of course. (I tend to use «orthodox Islam» from time to time, but I think it’s got a little too much of a peaceful ring to it…)

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      • Anonym

        No, I think the term orthodox is an adequate discription, not on Islam itself, but on those Muslims who take their «religion» seriosly. The interpretation is the same in both languages, English as well as in Norwegian, «adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith, especially in religion».

        Oh, but I totally agree as far as the good doctor’s concerned. He seem like a good guy, dedicated to his country. Hopeully he’s not a nutcase like the doctor who turned Fort Hood up-side down. When somebody call themselves a «devout Muslim», I can hear an alarm go off.

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        • Anonym

          He, he. Let’s hope he’s not a nutcase.

          Orthodox is probably the best description of dangerous Muslims and therefore ought to be used more.

          Are you an American and have you decided who you support for President? Sounds like Gingrich is ready to be truthful about the religion of peace.

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          • Anonym

            No Sir, I am not an American (how could my poor pidgin English have led you to believe that ;) ), but I sure have decided who I’d prefer sitting in The White House when this election is over with. Since Allen West won’t be running for office this time, and one after the other is running for cover, I’d sure as hell would like to see Gingrich at the helm before that scumbag Romney. Not to mention that lunatic Santorum and that geriartic imbecile Ron Paul. Btw., this is what Ann Barnhardt has to say about «Myth» Romney – spot on:


             
            Apart from that, here’s another favorite of mine:

            http://www.youtube.com/user/WildBillforAmerica?feature=watch

            So, how come a native Norwegian like me choose English before Norwegian? Well, when I checked out the hits on my own blog, I found out that I had a lot of visitors who, most likely, doesn’t speak Norwegian. I figured that this wesite is somewhat more popular, got more foreign readers and all, so, as a gesture of courtesy to those who doesn’t «habla» Norwegian, I figured that this just might be a good idea. Whether or not my Norwegian is an improvement over my English, please visit my blog and decide for yourself:

            http://bjornmadso.blogspot.com/

            bjorn

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            • Anonym

              Well isn’t this quite strange and almost bordering on the absurd: Two Norwegians on a Norwegian blog speaking English to each other. Why not? I guess everyone who isn’t brainwashed will have to leave Europe pretty soon anyway, so we might as well keep practicing.

              I’ve read your blog a couple of times before and find it quite entertaining, especially in your praise of everyone’s favorite Gul-Lars.

              But let’s forget about him before he comes running by the very mentioning of his name.

              Is Ann Barnhardt still alive? She DID burn the unholy book, after all…

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              • Anonym

                What’s important here is to get the message out, in every which language possible. And I ain’t going anywhere, Muslims or no Muslims. I’ll fight them any which way I can, stick my pen in their eyes to begin with, and replace the pen with a bayonet if need be.

                Lars, the Mad Bomber? To hell with him, he’s just a moron. I’ve wasted enough time on him. Quite frankly. I’m not even sure it was him who recently took a dump on my property. It hasn’t been veryfied yet, anyway.

                And yes, Ann Barnhardt is still alive and kicking ass. :)

                bjorn

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            • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

              Allen West for president.

              Han har riktig hudfarge, så han må jo være Stoltenbeg og Støres favoritt.

              Fyren er genial og det er folk som ham, the US needs.

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          • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

            What is the difference between a muslim and a islamist?  The «islamist» takes islam seriously.

            Got this from a friend in The US today:

            «The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the
             Republicans. It’s that time that we all need to come together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

            If you support the Republican nominee, please drive with your headlights ON during the day.

            If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights OFF at night.

            Together, we can make it happen.»

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  • http://www.sisteskanse.net/ Asdic

    Jeg har CDn’. Vil Marit & Bjørn låne den?

    Muslim Terrorist Training Camps in America

    Child Terror Training Camps

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    • Anonym

      No need, Asdic, I’ve seen enough of it to last me a lifetime, and then some. Islam is our enemy, just like Nazism once was our enemy. So what separates a Muslim from a Nazi? They sure have a lot in common. None the less, we’re gonna have to fight them sooner rather than later anyway. In the meantime, let’s keep putting up those warning signs.

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    • http://document.no Marit

      Takk Asdic ! Ingen ting sjokkerer lenger, desverre.

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  • Anonym

    Og som vanlig skiftet debatten seg fra temaet radikal islam og islamisme til hele religionen islam og dens alle mulige slags 1,7 milliarder tilhengere. :D
    Ekstremisme finnes ikke bare blant muslimer. DENNE bloggen bevitner at kontrajihadister og islamhatere er like ekstremiske i sin dom over islam og muslimer. haha

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    • Jan Mayen

      Ja, kanskje i sin rettferdige dom over ekstremislamister, men lang fra villig til å sprenge sivile og barn med bomber og granater i Allaballas navn. Ha ha.

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      • Anonym

        Det er logisk å dømme ekstreme millitante islamister (wahhabister) som ser på både ikke-ekstreme muslimer og andre vantro mennesker som «likeverdige». Men det å kalle verdens milliarder av muslimer for nazister pga. noen islamist terroristenes urasjonelle ugjerninger, tror jeg man da har krysset grensen for logisk argumentasjon :D

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        • Anonym

          Vi kaller ikke all verdens muslimer noe som helst, det er tross alt ytterst sjelden deres egen feil at de har havnet inn i allahs totalitære hjernevaskprogram. Vi likestiller islam med nazisme på grunn av islams idégrunnlag, sunna og koran, ikke på grunn av menneskers handlinger.

          Det eneste som skiller «islamisme» fra islam er de fire bokstavene på slutten av selve ordet, rett og slett fordi islam ALLTID har handlet om politikk og fordi «profeten» drev med politikk og ikke bare forkynnelse i siste halvpart av karrieren sin.

          Og hijab’en er vel også islamistisk, forresten. Bare staffasje, med andre ord.

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          • Anonym

            «fordi islam ALLTID har handlet om politikk»
            Hahaha. Historieløst vrøvl. Islam er mye mer enn ren politikk:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_ethics#Moral_commandments

            Islam er en religion men kan seff rukes politisk som kristendommen ble brukt får å rettferdiggjøre kolonisering av fjerne områder og sionismen blir brukt for kolonisering av Palestina. :D

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            • Anonym

              «Hahaha. Historieløst vrøvl.»

              Dette er ikke noe annet enn løgn.

              1) De siste ti årene av sin 23 år lange karriere som forkynner av islam, i Medina-perioden, drev Muhammed med krig og politikk, inkludert karavanerøveri, tortur, snikmord, voldtekt og massedrap.

              2) Islam handler om å emulere hans eksempel, noe som står 91 ganger i koranen.

              Dette er uomtvistelige fakta. Ergo: Islam har alltid vært en politisk ideologi.

              Sånt sludder som du presterer må du lenger ut på landet med og dette viser forøvrig at det ikke har noen hensikt å diskutere mer med deg om dette.

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              • Anonym

                «De siste ti årene av sin 23 år lange karriere som forkynner av islam,
                i Medina-perioden, drev Muhammed med krig og politikk, inkludert
                karavanerøveri, tortur, snikmord, voldtekt og massedrap. »
                Og hva så? Jødiske «hellige» konger gjorde det samme under David og Solomons regimet. De kjempet brutalt mot Israels «fiender» :D
                Det var «kristne konger og fyrster» som tvangskristnet hele hedensk europa til kristendom med sverd. Alt dette «onde» var vanlig på den tiden :D Latterlig er hvordan du sammenligner dagens moderne normer og verdier med de som var vanlig 1400 år siden for så å lage narr av Muhammad. :D

                «2) Islam handler om å emulere hans eksempel, noe som står 91 ganger i koranen.»
                Nei. Islam handler slett ikke om å «emulere» Muhammad. Dette var den store Shia-Sunni splittelse i Islam. Shia-muslimer ser ikke på Muhammad som et emuleringsobjekt. Kun ekstreme sunni-wahhabi sekter som gjør.

                «Dette er uomtvistelige fakta. Ergo: Islam har alltid vært en politisk ideologi.»
                Feil igjen. Det er kunn tradisjonelle fundematalistiske sunnimuslimer som emulerer muhammad. Resten av muslimsk verden har ingenting med Muhammad-emulering å gjøre :D
                 
                «Sånt
                sludder som du presterer»
                Sludder kommer fra din ende med dine tåpelige overgeneraliseriner om islam og muslimer. Islam og muslimer er ikke svart-hvit :D

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                • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

                  Kutt ut :D

                  Det virker ikke her.

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                • http://document.no Marit

                  Kan arifkanin snart slutte med å servere oss svada på samtlige nettsteder ?
                  Du mangler totalt evne til å tenke selv, og bare gulper opp de samme frasene !
                  Vi gidder ikke høre mer på dine islamofile utlegninger !
                  Finn deg et nytt beite !

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                  • Sivilisert nordmann

                    Det er interessant at folk her blir så oppbrakt hver gang noen kommer med meninger som ikke passer inn i deres ekstreme anti-islamske verdensbilde. Dere foretrekker tydeligvis å kun høre fra folk som deler deres forkvaklede verdensbilde. Jeg håper dere husker hva som kan skje med folk som fullstendig forlater virkelighetenfor å lulle seg inn i sitt eget radikalt fremmedfiendtlige verdensbilde. Ha øynene åpne for motargumenter. Den virkelige konflikten står ikke mellom muslimer og ikke-muslimer, men mellom folk som Mohyeldeen Mohammed, SIAN, Mullah Krekar og Fjordmann på den ene siden, og oss  vanlige mennesker som ikke er så opptatt av at folk med forskjellig religion på død og liv må hate hverandre og ligge i strid med hverandre til en hver tid på den andre siden.

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            • Anonym

              -«og sionismen (politisk jødedom) blir brukt for kolonisering av Palestina»…

              How do you figure, mr Arifkarim? Seems to me that 22 000 square kilometres ain’t too much to brag about, compare to those colonies that the Europeans had to give up. Btw, where are these «colonists» today? The British mandate ceased to exist May 14th. 1948, the same day Israel declared its independence. Get your facts straight before you accuse anybody of «historisk vrøvl».  

              Once again I see you try to justify crimes committed in the name of Allah by bringing up other religions. It won’t work, we didn’t crawl out from under churces and chappels just to be overrunned and occupied by another medieval cult from hell. You’re right about one thing, though, Islam is more than just politics. It’s also a mental disorder, currently expressed in nearly 20 000 terrorist attacs since 9/11.

              bjorn

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                «Seems to me that 22 000 square
                kilometres ain’t too much to brag about, compare to those colonies that
                the Europeans had to give up.»
                Had to give up? They were never theirs. Occupied territory of civilians and army means an illegal colony.

                «Btw, where are these «colonists» today?»
                They are in Israel today. European Zionist Jews are the colonists.

                «The British mandate ceased to exist May 14th. 1948, the same day Israel
                declared its independence.»
                And according to you that day the zionist colony was gone? :D Ever heard of a settler-colony? America also got «independence» from the mother-colony UK, doesnt mean America is not a settler-colony:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism

                 »Get your facts straight»
                I have my facts right in ur face. Israel, America and Australia are  still settler colonies. 

                «Once again I see you try to
                justify crimes committed in the name of Allah by bringing up other
                religions.»
                Crimes are not commited in the name of allah. Crimes are commited because of an illusion in the mind of fanatics that their deeds are logical and justified, when infact they are not.
                Religion can be interpreted in various ways. While there are extremists, there are also people from the same religion condemning these criminal acts in the name of religion.

                » It’s also a mental disorder, currently expressed in nearly 20
                000 terrorist attacs since 9/11.»
                Then the worlds 1,7 billion muslims should be psychoes u idiot!

                bjorn

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                • Anonym

                  -«Had to give up? They were never theirs. Occupied territory of civilians and army means an illegal colony.»

                  What you seem to overlook is that Israel is not a «territory», it’s an independent Jewish state. Before Israel was re-established, it was a wasteland after 400 years with Muslim neglect and ignorance. Only a moron would compare the «birth» of the USA to the re-establishment of Eretz Israel. The Jews are the indigenous people in the Holy Land, the Arabs are nothing but intruders or trespassers. Just like the white man in America. Or in Australia, for that matter.

                  -«Crimes are not commited in the name of allah»…

                  No? Gee wizzz, I guess they must have heard wrong, those soldiers who survived the Fort Hood massacre. Wonder what Nidal Malik Hasan was shouting during his killing spree? «Open sesame, here comes rastaman»? Or could it have been…allahu akbar? Man, you really are a schmuck. :D

                  -«there are also people from the same religion condemning these criminal acts in the name of religion.»

                  Yeah, I guess you know them both? Usually the Muslims dance in the street and fire their AK47 in the air when they succeed in killing Jews or infidels by the bushel basket. That’s some interpretation for you.

                  -«Then the worlds 1,7 billion muslims should be psychoes»…

                  I think that’s a fair statement. Only a bonafide psycopath would practice a religion that sanctions or commit beheading, honor killing, persecution of Jews and infidels, or raising hell in general. And that’s a fact, in your face, mr Arifkarim.
                  in your face, mr

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                  • Anonym

                    «What
                    you seem to overlook is that Israel is not a «territory», it’s an
                    independent Jewish state.»
                    Hahaha. Liar! Israel is not an «independent» state whatsoever. Billions of american taxpayer dollars are sent to Israel each year to fund zionist colonization of Palestine by various zionist «israel friendly» hategroups :D
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_relations

                    «Before Israel was re-established, it was a
                    wasteland after 400 years of Muslim neglect and ignorance.»
                    It wasn’t a wasteland just because one zionist traveler said that :D . And no, it wasn’t just a «muslim» area. Although muslim arabs dominated Palestine for centuries, the land had a minority of Christians , Jews and Druze for centuries too:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Palestine#Demographics_in_the_Ottoman_period

                    «The Jews are the indigenous people in the Holy Land»
                    Are all the worlds jews «indigenous people in the Holy Land»? :D Are u a total moron? Jews today are from all races, all colors, all languages etc proving «conversions» to judaism from non-jewish original population. A jew is a not a race and certainly not a «people», but anyone who practice judaism or born to mothers practicing this ancient religion is a jew. That conversion is allowed in judaism from earlier times proves that Jews are no nation but just an abrahamic religion. Its the modern zionism and islamism that calls jews and muslims to be distinct people or nation, while the historical facts say otherwise:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People

                    «the Arabs
                    are nothing but intruders or trespassers. Just like the white man in
                    America. Or in Australia, for that matter.»
                    Not all arabs are intruders. Most of the palestinian arabs today are probably sons and daughters of converted Jews and Christians which with the arab invasion and dominance few hundred years ago.  DNA-analyses and other historic data prove it:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#Ancestral_origins

                    «Usually the Muslims dance in the street and
                    fire their AK47 in the air when they succeed in killing Jews or
                    infidels by the bushel basket»
                    All muslims dont go around with AK47. Millitant islamists on the other hand oppose jewish presence in Palestine, and therefore the reaction.

                    «I
                    think that’s a fair statement.»
                    LoL! I only wrote that to test ur shit mind. And u just passed my hatetest. Welcome to the new naziworld where worlds 1,7 billion humans are a «threat» to rest of humanity and must be exterminated to save the rest :D

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                    • Fargo

                      منذ علينا أولا أن أتكلم الخارجية في النرويج وربما فقط كذلك أننا جات الى اللغة العربية على مدى الأول إلى الأخير..؟

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              • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

                http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

                18360 for å være nøyaktig.

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        • http://document.no Marit

          -» pga. noen islamist terroristenes urasjonelle ugjerninger,-»
          Å ? Jeg kjenner mange muslimer. Ingen av dem er utpreget rasjonelle, for å si det sånn. De fleste synes å henge igjen i en magisk tenkning, som er vanlige i barns 3 – 4- årsalder.
          Man kan se det i Egypt, f.eks. og i Pakistan, der folk denger løs på DUKKER, for å vise sin avsky for en eller annen kafir i en annen verdensdel. Magisk tenkning. Merk deg det, arikanin.
          Den samme magiske tenkningen så vi da en pastor på et lite sted i USA brant opp en koran, som han var lei av. Straks gikk noen bavianer i Afghanistan løs på europere, som jobbet for å hjelpe fattigfolk der.En norsk kvinne, ansatt i FN, og en svensk mann ble halshugget, som straff for koranbrenning i USA.
          Dette skjedde i fjor.
          De som kan sies å være «rasjonelle muslimer», er alle ex-muslimer.
          Nå hører jeg at en muslimsk kvinne elsker å iføre seg spøkelseskostyme, for det gjør henne FRI. Å skremme gud og hvermann på gata, er også del av denne magiske tenkningen. Muslimer trenger å bli voksne !

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    • Anonym

      Det er ingenting ekstremistisk med å peke på ekstremisme. Se forøvrig nedenfor.

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    • Anonym

      -»Ekstremisme finnes ikke bare blant muslimer».
       
      Is that an excuse or an explanation? Because I am not interested in either one. We need to distinguish between common criminals and religious fanatics who seek world domination. I don’t se myself as an extremist for pointing that out.

      Whether they call themselves Shiit or Sunny, and regardless how you spell it, we need to examine the evidence. How? I tell you how, we go directly to the source: the Qu’ran. Now, if that isn’t a recipe for terrorism, I don’t know what is.

      At this point I usually get the Bible thrown in my face. For the life of me, I can’t see how that could possibly exhonerate Muhamed and his teachings. If you decide to call yourself a Muslim, you have a pedophile murderer, slave trader and war lord for a role model.

      If you compare Muhamed to Jesus Christ, you’d have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see the difference. In other words, the more extreme a Christian gets, the more non-violent he gets. As far as the Muslims is concerned, it’s the other way around. Now, you do the math, mr Arifkarim.

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      • Anonym

        Who said anything about having Muhammad or Jesus as a rolemodel? :D Just because one says he is a muslim or a christian doesnt mean religions founder is a «rolemodel» for that person, u dumb ass! :D

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          Well, I did! When, or if you find anything contradictory in that statement, you let me know.

          Dumb ass, huh? Well, it sound just a tad better than dumbass, but who would notice the difference. Oh, not that I didn’t see that comming from a long way off, people like yourself usually resort to foul language when they run out of arguments. Way to go, mr Arifkarim, you sure can fling shit with the best of them. Your upbringing finally paid off.
          :D

          bjorn

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            I called u dumb ass for a reason:
            «If you decide to call yourself a Muslim, you have a pedophile murderer, slave trader and war lord for a role model.»
            U think everybody calling himself / herself a muslim see Muhammad as a role model? This is the biggest lie! Shia-muslims see Ali as role model and practically love him alot more than Mohammad.
            An no, I never ran out of arguments. I got u when u were lying. Ur another lie is this:
            «In other words, the more extreme a Christian gets, the more non-violent he gets.»
            Ever heard of «extreme» christian armies and crusades in old times? I bet they were very kind and non-violant when they killed every muslim and jew upon invading Jerusalem:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%281099%29#Massacre

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              Old time crusaders after muslims conquest?  Stop fooling around. You
              will have not suksess with lies and stupidity her. I understand it is a bit tricky for a 24 year old to admit he is on the wrong side of history and events , but even so. Stop it, at least for your own good. !

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                lol! I got u again! There is no such thing as «wrong» or «right» side of history. If the nazis and japanese had won ww2, today they would be on the «right» side of history and u loosers would be on the «wrong» side :D
                Its the winners who always get to write history, even if is totally onesided propaganda.  Nazis built the advanced rocketsystems which took humans to the moon. Yet the credit goes to sucker americans :D

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              Mr. Arifkarim, you need to get your facts straight; do you  sincerely believe that the Crusades, all nine of them, had any warranty what so ever, in the teachings of Jesus Christ? If so, I recon you believe that the biggest idiot that ever was sworn into presidency, GW Bush, went out on a Crusade too? Newsflash; they had to sack the «Crusade on terror» as a campaign callsign, simply because it didn’t sit well with the fat cats in Riyad. To replace it, they came up with a phrase to describe the most idiotic concept ever concieved: The «War on terror».

              Point being this, and there’s no use denying it: Terrorism, or any criminal act committed in the name of Jesus Christ, has no warranty in the New Testament. It goes against everything that Jesus stands for. If you’d be good enough to look up in your beloved Qu’ran, see if you can find a chapter or verse that would comdemn attacks on infidels or Jews. In fact, the Qu’ran encourages such behaviour. Anyways, don’t pretend that you didn’t know that the Muslims had been wreaking havoc in Europe for almost three hundred years before the first Crusade went out.

              You catch me lying? That’s a laugh, man, you couldn’t catch a cold, even if your life was depending on it. :D

              bjorn

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                «If you’d be good enough to look up in your beloved Qu’ran, see if you
                can find a chapter or verse that would comdemn attacks on infidels or
                Jews.»

                First thing: Quran is not my «beloved» book. I see it only as religious-semihistoric book written by the first muslims dictated by Muhammad.
                Second: Islam protects the people of the book and forbid destroying all places of worship.
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_ethics#Moral_commandments

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                  So, if the Qu’ran isn’t your «beloved book», you’re probably not a Muslim either? Am I missing something here?

                  -«Islam protects the people of the book and forbid destroying all places of worship»…?

                  Well, I think it’s the other way around; Islam doesn’t protect anything, it’s a recipe for destruction and slavery. In other words, the people, that would be the Muslims, are brought up to protect their religion and their fragile «god».

                  -«Take not with Allah another object of worship; or thou wilt sit in disgrace and destitution»…?

                  Correctly interpreted: Apostasy is punishable by death. In the grand scheme of things, Muslim men should be kind to one another, beat their wives into submission, kill their daughters for stepping outside without a chaperone, all this when their not too buzy fighting the infidels and the Jews.

                  Moral commandments? Yeah, in a pigs eye.

                  bjorn

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        • Anonym

          Christians often wear bracelets with the following letters: WWJD
          This means «What Would Jesus Do?»
          I think most, maybe all practicing Chrisians have Jesus as their rolemodel, so dont you include us christians in your stupid rethoric.

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  • http://rettpaasak.blogspot.com/ Harald Hardnakket

    Merk at Dagbladet enda ikke har lukket kommentarfeltet på denne saken. Antall kommentarer er i ferd med, i skrivende stund å passere 2500! Ikke blir noe sensurert heller.

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/01/24/nyheter/islam/utenriks/politi/usa/19920212/#comment-420935199

    Undres over hva som har endret seg i ytringspolitikken der.

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  • http://www.sisteskanse.net/ Asdic

    Meningsutvekslinger med Aifkarm, er meningsløst.

    Han har baller nok til å benekte at dette er hentet fra hadith:

    Palestinian Authority Mufti says Muslims will kill Jews in name of Islam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDoV8ZL9Xkc&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDoV8ZL9Xkc&feature=player_embeddedVedrørende korstog.Etter at grunnleggeren av islam, Muhammed, døde i år 632 eksploderte den arabiske halvøy i uprovosert angrepskrig i nesten alle kompassretninger. I løpet av de første hundre år hadde muslimene myrdet, plyndret og massakrert seg opp gjennom det da kristne Midtøsten, tvers over det da kristne Nord-Afrika, invadert og okkupert det da kristne Spania, krysset Pyreneene, og herjet, brente og plyndret i det da kristne Sør-Frankrike. Hadde de ikke blitt stanset av Charles Martel i slaget ved Poitiers i 732 ville etter alt å dømme hele Europa ha falt til islam. Dette var rundt regnet 400 år før noen korsfarer hadde løftet noe sverd i Jesu navn, korstogene begynte først i 1095 etter at muslimene da kontinuerlig hadde angrepet den kristne verden i over et halvt årtusen. Det tok for øvrig nesten 800 år å frigjøre Spania fra den muslimske okkupasjonen som startet med invasjonen i 711. I mellomtiden agrep muslimene Syd-Frankrike fra sjøen. De plyndret og herjet i Frankrike, Italia, Sveits og Østerrike, de stengte Alpepassene og trengte inn i Syd-Tyskland, alt dette hundrevis av år før noe korstog var påtenkt.Når det gjelder korstogene varte de bare i ca 150 år og var kun en temporær gjenerobring av territorier som muslimene hadde erobret gjennom uprovosert angrepskrig i de foregående århundrer, og som de senere tok tilbake da korstogene ebbet ut. Etter korstogene gjenopptok muslimene sitt stormløp mot Europa. Tyrkerne hadde da overtatt rollen som førerne av islams sverd. Det sydlige Polen ble angrepet og plyndret omtrent hvert eneste år i over hundrec år. Hadde ikke polske tropper stanset et større angrep ved Khotyn i 1621 ville muslimene antaklelig ha trengt helt frem til Østersjøen. Målet for deres felttog det året var «å vanne hestene ved Østersjøen» (Drikker muslimske kavallerihester saltvann mon tro?) Så sent som mot slutten av det 17 århundre plyndret og herjet muslimene i hjertet av det kristne Europa, f eks beleiret de Wien i 1683. Hadde ikke polske tropper da kommet til unnsetning i aller siste liten ville byen ha falt.Å fremstille korstogene som noen «gjeld» det kristne Europa måtte ha til den muslimske verden er kunnskapsløst og historieløst tøv. Vi skylder den muslimske verden i alminnelighet, og den arabisk-muslimske verden og Tyrkia i særdeleshet, ingenting annet enn hva som med fordel kan leveres pr krysserraketter. Den muslimske verden derimot, og i særdeleshet den arabisk-muslimske verden har en enorm historisk skyld og gjeld, ikke bare til Europa. Deres slavehandel fra Afrika har et omfang i tid og rom som reduserer europeernes sådanne til en fotnote. Muslimenes slavertrafikk i Afrika startet over et halvt årtusen før europeernes, og den fortsetter den dag i dag, bl a i Sudan. På østfronten erobret de først Perserriket, og fortsatte videre østover til India med plyndring og massakrer. Det ble innledningen til muslimenes folkemord på titalls millioner hinduer i India gjennom hundrevis av år, de antakelig verste grusomheter i menneskehetens historie overhodet. Muslimenes historiske skyld og gjeld til det kristne Europa, til Afrika sør for Sahara, og til det hinduistiske India er så ufattelig stor at skulle de gjøre opp for seg ville de ikke ha igjen nok olje til å smøre en symaskin en gang.

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      Veldig bra, Asdic. Har du lest Paul Fregosis ‘Jihad in the West?’.

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    • Anonym

      Dette synet forfektet jeg på aftenpostens diskusjonsfora pre-22/7(før mer demokrati og åpenhet stengte den ned) og ble selvfølgelig møtt med den vanlige latterliggjøringen at jeg var en rasist og led av islamofobi som kunne påstå at korsfarere var en reaksjon islams opptreden i midtøstein og mot Europa.

      Det var i denne perioden jeg oppdaget hvor kunnskapsløse folk på ytterste venstre egentlig var og hvor hjernevasket de virket å være. Om jeg fant seriøse nettsteder dom underbygget min påstand, fant de kvasi vitenskapelige, islamske sider som «beviste det motsatte». Ingen tegn til kildekritikk eller annen kritisk sans.

      Det var også på dette forumet jeg fattet mistanke til flere individer som var «for dum til å være sant». Jeg mener at flere av disse jobbet på oppdrag for feks sos-rasisme (ufred i dets minne) for å slite ut motdebatanter som tolmodig, dag etter dag postet nye svar til disse, med nye linker og fakta uten at det virket å synke inn.

      En annen av disse (posteren Øyvind S) mistenker jeg for å ha vært Øyvind Strømmen, som i et nettmøte i høst innrømmet selv å ha deltatt aktivt i de fora han overvåket. Posteren «Øyvind S» kunne komme med påstander som: «Islam er en fredelig religion» . Dermed er det lett å tenke seg til at en som Øyvind Strømmen kunne bruke de tildels opphetede svarene han mottok som et slags sannhetsvitne om grumset som regjerte nettet før Utøya.

      Om jeg tar feil mht Øyvind Strømmen og posteren Øyvind S, beklager jeg dette, men det er vel ikke en urimelig tanke å forestille seg at disse to er samme person?

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      Dp

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  • Jan Mayen

    En rekke fremtredende og radikale muslimer har et mål om å overta
    verden  Det dokumenteres til gangs i filmen. Og noen av disse radikale muslimene har gjort en god jobb i Lørenskog der Mohammad er på navnetoppen i  kommune.  Ordføreren jubler. http://www.rb.no/lokale_nyheter/article5898741.ece

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    dp

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  • Anonym

    Your perspective on history never cease to amaze me, mr Arifkarim. All those ifs and buts doesn’t count, unless you insist on living in your own bubble. But then again, you seem to have problems when it comes to distinguish between right and wrong, so I suppose we can’t expect you to be reasonable.

    History is more than what’s written by winners or conquerers. If you were even near the truth, we all would be thinking the same, living in peace. Take a look at the conflicts between Jews and Arabs. How many times have the Arabs got their asses kicked? They have lost every war they’ve initiated, still they insist on writing «history» as they see fit.

    Oh, the Nazies built rockets in order to kill people, the Americans developed it to a more advance stage. If you take a closer look, you may find out that those pesky Jews had a finger in it too. Life is a bitch, huh. :D

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      «If you were even near the truth, we all would be thinking the same,
      living in peace.»
      U cant live in peace by making hell out of most of the earlier inhabitants of Palestine:
      http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

      «Take a look at the conflicts between Jews and Arabs.
      How many times have the Arabs got their asses kicked?»
      Native Indians of America and Aborigenes of Australia also got their ass kicked by superior invading european colonialists forces. It doesnt mean those colonialists were on the «right» side of history :D

      «They have lost
      every war they’ve initiated, still they insist on writing «history» as
      they see fit.»
      Hahaha. So arabs initiated war on Israel? WHO the hell started mass zionist immigration to arab dominated Palestine 50 years before Israels declaration of «independence»? :D
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah#Zionist_Aliyah_.281882_on.29

      «Oh, the Nazies built rockets in order to kill
      people, the Americans developed it to a more advance stage.»
      Idiot! WHO used nazi german technology to build ballastic and cruise missiles with nuclear capability after ww2? U guess right: The official «winners» of ww2 :D
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2

      «If you take a
      closer look, you may find out that those pesky Jews had a finger in it
      too. Life is a bitch, huh.»
      European jews were behind first nuclear bomb, not nazi rockets.

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  • Anonym

    I’m not sure why I keep wasting my time on you, but I suppose it’s got something to do with pure boredom on my part. Your ignorance amuses me. I wish you would quit referring to Wikipedia, though, it’s  the most unrealiable encyclopedia ever created.  

    Funny how you go on compare the native Americans and Australians to the Arabs, don’t you know that the Jews are the indigenous people in the Eretz Yisrael? They were there thousands of years before your «prophet» Mohamed raped his nine years old «wife» and started a plague that threatens to suffucate our civilization.

    -«So arabs initiated war on Israel? WHO the hell started mass zionist immigration to arab dominated Palestine 50 years before Israels declaration of «independence»…

    First of all, you should know the basics about «Palestine», it is in fact an equivalent to Scandinavia, which has independent states like Norway, Sweden and Denmark. There are two independent states in Palestine today, Jordan and Israel. The Arabs lost their claim on Palestine when the Sykes/Picot agreement came in to place after WWI.

    Now that we have established the fact that Palestine is not a state, has never been and never will be, I think it’s time for you to come to terms with the fact that Eretz Yisrael is the only legal state between the Jordanian River and the Mediterranean ocean, and between Lebanon and the Red Sea. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that.

    Who invented the rocket is of no relevance or interest, but I think maybe the Chineese was the first to actually get a rocket airborne. Unlike you, they also invented the gun powder, but I suspect that you sat to close for comfort when the first blast went off. So, who are you to call me an idiot, you retard. :D

    bjorn

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  • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

    Det ble jævlig smalt lenger oppe.  Facts kommer: Følg med A.kanin.

    The Status of Non-Muslims Under Muslim Rule:

    We shall not build, in our cities or in their neighborhood, new
    monasteries, Churches, convents, or monks’ cells, nor shall we repair,
    by day or by night,
    such of them as fall in ruins or are situated in the
    quarters of the Muslims.

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pact-umar.asp

    Som svar på: Second: Islam protects the people of the book and forbid destroying all places of worship.

    Hva skjedde med synagogene i Jerusalem under 19 år jordansk okkupasjon?

    Arifkanin er amadiijamuslim og splittre pine gal. Ikke la ham ødelegge denne bolbben, som han gjorde med   http://www.frie-ytringer.com/

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  • http://twitter.com/Teddyutenfilter Snakedriver

    Hvorfor brukes Wiki som sannhetsvitne, når sannheten står å lese i hadith?

    Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn ‘Abbas, who said, «Had I
    been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, ‘Don’t punish (anybody) with Allah’s Punishment.’ No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ «

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